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Published on December 13, 2004 By lifehappens In Blogging
I have been avoiding this issue for a while now. i didn't want to blog about it because i knew that my husband would read my blog and I didn't want to make this any harder on either of us than it already was.

I asked him if I could get rid of our dog. He doesn't want to have me do that. He loves Lady. (I do too.) But for various reasons, I have finally come to the point where I cannot deal with this dog anymore. yet, I know he loves the dog and this is hard for him to deal with and then I feel guilty for hurting him and then frustrated because I do like this dog too. And this storm of emotions has escalated in my mind to the point where I don't know what I want anymore.

What I do know is this. Lady tears up the backyard. She runs in circles, tearing up the grass in the process. This isn't because she is a bad dog. She jsut needs exercise. The vet said that if I woudl run with her, she would not destroy the yard. The problem isn't that she kills grass, it's that when it rains our yard turns into a lake and then never dries up. The mud is thick and nasty and lingers for at least 2 or 3 weeks after my friends yards are dry. I wouldn't care if I didn't have a 2 year old who wants to play outside, but because of the mud, is limited in how often he can go out. And if I have to choose between my kid playing outside or having a dog....I choose a kid-friendly backyard. Not very much guilt there, but there is a bit.

And I do like this dog. Lady is sweet and gentle. She has always proven to be good with children and fairly smart. Yes, she barks at lightning, but she is really well behaved. And for that reason....I feel guilty. I feel guilty that she sits alone in the backyard for the majority of the time. She isn't allowed in the house anymore....remmeber the mud? i have two kids and I can't keep the muddly dog inside. So I feel guilty that she is banished to the yard. I feel even worse when it gets cold. She hates being in a doghouse so she just hangs out in all kinds of miserable weather....and it is getting colder. I feel guilty for not taking care of her the way she should be cared for.

So I talked to HW and even though he isn't happpy, he allowed me to find her another home. One with space to run and play, with a family (hopefully kids) who will love her. I posted a bio on a "Pet Rescue Site". I talked up her good qualities and explained that she is not being left because she is a bad dog, but because I can't take care of her anymore because our house was too small. This was in the hope that someone would realize that I'm not trying to saddle them with a dangerous animal and instead trying to find a home for a loved pet.

I had a woman (Denise at [moderator removed- please do not post other people's email addresses without their consent] ) email me the following.
So in another 4 years ar you going to throw out a kid to make room for more? Try planning, Dont get more than you plan to keep and care for , that is being piggy. If everyone got dogs when they were cute and little and threw them out when it wasnt convienent we would have a worl full of selfish people like you and more old dogs at the pound. You signed up for dog ownership, it is a lifespan commitment not a convienient pastime untill you decide to overpopulate our world with more humans than you can fit in your house.

I was so pissed off. Here I am trying to do the right thing and not just have my dog put to sleep and she thinks she can beligerently tell me that I am irresponsible and overpopulating the world? I did plan my kids, I didn't plan on 2 years of back to back separations where I would have no support and I didn't plan on the dog. She was rescued from potentially being left at the pound. I would like to think that while yes, this is a selfish descision on my part, I am being unselfish in my choice to find her a home and not abandon her. I'm still pissed. How dare someone judge me for something they have no idea about?!?

I have enough guilt for what I am doing already. Why would anyone think they have the right to say something spiteful and mean? I am sorry that I made this choice and I question it occasionally, but then I realize that this is what needs to happen for me to stay sane. I can't handle three kids and a dog is just as much work as a child. I feel horrible that my husband and son are losing the pet they love so much. I feel bad when I see my dog outside in the cold. I AM TRYING TO FIX THIS DAMNIT SO GET OFF MY BACK!

[Rant off]

That all being said. Does anyone want a border collie? She need a home with less guilt.

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on Dec 13, 2004

I'm emailing her.  Fuck that BS, you neither need nor deserve that.

And, I'm not holding back.  I'm playing the new mommy and the military spouse card....I'm going to make her feel like shit.

on Dec 13, 2004
Hmm is there anyway that you can really take a look and see what she is trying to say to you here? You have a Border Collie, a dog that needs alot of attention and exercise or it will get bored. Did you not know that when you first got it? You say that you dont let it inside anymore so it has a change in dynamics, no wonder it is ripping up the backyard.

Im glad your not going to put the dog down and are trying to find it a new home.

Im a little dismayed that you didnt think of this before you got a dog especially a border collie.
on Dec 13, 2004
Unfortunately I can't take the dog for you. But I think it is good that your trying to find it a nice place to live. Even if mean lady emails you. Ignore her, there are othe nice people out there that will be able to take care of the dog I'm sure.
on Dec 13, 2004
Im sorry...Im not trying to make you feel more guilty here .. just trying to help you see what this person is trying to say.. Yeah it must be hard to do what your doing but ill explain it this way..

When I go to work I pass by everytime a pet shop.. and it has a huge range of puppies. They seem to go really quickly. I went in the other day and spoke with the store owner. They were happy that the puppies were going but knew that most would end up at the pound in the next couple of months due to the christmas rush. Everyone wants a puppy for christmas but dont stop and think about what kind of dog they are getting and the commitment they are making, so they give it up months down the track or have them destroyed.

So Im not trying to make you feel bad just trying to help others to think about the implications of getting a dog and the commitment and the energy that is required to have one.
on Dec 13, 2004
Lifehappens--I hope that you find someone on the Pet Rescue site that will be able to take your dog--If my landlord allowed pets, I'd be first in line. My parents got two of our cats from an internet pet rescue site. They were brothers and needed to be adopted together. My parents were only planning on one, but decided they'd take both--it was a great decision--the cats are terrific (for cats, anyway!).

Good luck finding a home for Lady. I don't think you are being selfish at all. I think you are being responsible.
on Dec 13, 2004
Must be hard to give up a pet and it's a hard decision on you, not made easier by such a preachy person. Hope you find a good home for the dog, least that would surely give you a peace of mind that she's in a better home. Good luck on it.

>> Denise at d.b------@comcast.net

heh..she gonna get spammed now. Spambots probably got her by now.
on Dec 13, 2004
I figured that I would have a wide range of responses. and I did. so i will reply to you all.

I'm emailing her.

Thanks Dharma, I know you understand where I am coming from. HW suggested I put her email on here and said that someone would also answer her with the quick wit of JU.

Danny and Shades of Grey, Thanks for the kind thoughts. I will post when she does find a good home.

Did you not know that when you first got it? You say that you dont let it inside anymore so it has a change in dynamics, no wonder it is ripping up the backyard.


Yes i was aware of the need to get her regular exercise when my HUSBAND got her. I agreed to it and I did walk her. My son and/or I would play with her a lot. However, by the time I was 7 months pregnant...I couldn't do it as much, but my two year old was good at playing with her. But my house just isn't big enough for a muddy dog and a newborn. And I don't have the energy to wash her four times a day to bring her in and out. She has always run around the backyard, but it has gotten worse since the baby was born and the rain started....mostly because I can't walk her and my son isn't outside with her.

Im not trying to make you feel bad just trying to help others to think about the implications of getting a dog and the commitment and the energy that is required to have one

I understand....it is a big problem with people who want a cute puppy, or kitten or chicks and then ditch them when they are older. We got her as an adult and would probably have kept her if we had a) a bigger house b)a spouse to help with her and/or kids.

Must be hard to give up a pet
that would surely give you a peace of mind that she's in a better home

It is hard, mostly because my family loves her so much. I think that's what I'm looking for...peace from the knowlege that she is in a better home

heh..she gonna get spammed now

Thanks. Mean people get what they deserve.
on Dec 13, 2004
LW your well written comments desere a reply of their own...but I have to go feed my daughter...so if you wait. I will be back and give you the response you deserve.
on Dec 13, 2004
LW -
I wouldn't care if I didn't have a 2 year old who wants to play outside, but


Her husband is deployed (hyperborean wanderer (sp) "Jesus, did you hear that"), she has a 2 week old newborn and a 2 year old son - who can't can't the dog for a walk in the afternoon/evening -- She's on her own
on Dec 13, 2004
Email sent, and this is what I said:

 

First of all, thank you for being so non-judgemental (heavy sarcasm there).

You know nothing about the person giving away the dog, so I'm going to fill you in a little:  she's a military spouse, she has a 2 year old, a one week old infant and she's doing it alone.  Her husband is deployed to Baghdad, he's been there for almost 7 months..... . .....so you can imagine the kind of stress she's under.  It's not even her dog, it's his, but seeing as he's not there and she is in no physical condition to take care of a house, a toddler, a newborn and a boisterous dog all be herself she has decided to do what she (and I) consider to be the responsible thing and find the dog a better home.

 

I don't know your circumstance and I will not assume anything about you.  I will, however, tell you this: life in our shoes isn't easy (I'm a military spouse too). 

 

Waht exactly would you have her do, Denise?   Keep the dog and end up having it neglected?  Don't you think that she's doing the right thing given the circumstances?  I do.  I think she's doing not only the right, but the responsible thing.  She realizes that she cannot adequately care for the dog, so she's trying her best to find it a more appropriate home.  She didn't abandon it, she didn't euthanize it.....

 

Things happen that are beyond our control sometimes.  Like wars.  All we can do as humans is do the best we can with what we are given.  That's exactly what Dana's trying to do. 

 

IMO, YOU are the selfish one.  You had an agenda, a statement to make and you were going to make it, regardless of the circumstances.

Well, you made it, and you made an innocent person, someone who neither needed or deserved to hear your sanctimonious claptrap, very upset.  She was upset enough at having to part with a much loved pet.....and you just added to that.

Thanks (more heavy sarcasm)

 

It was hard, very hard, to hold back...I wanted to really let fly, but that wouldn't have served any purpose but to get me riled and upset (more than I am now, anyway)

 

 

 

 

 
on Dec 13, 2004

UPDATE:

I just got this:

I apoloigized , I was out of line.  I lost it when I saw the hundreds of dogs people were giving away adn Im looking for my dog. I realize I insulted her and feel very badly, It will not happen again. I will visit the six shelters 3x a week adn look at all the dogs that are homeless and keep my mouth shut because you are right I made a big mistake and hurt some-one else who is going through some very tough times.

 

That makes me feel better.....and makes me glad I didn't let fly.

 

on Dec 13, 2004
heh..she gonna get spammed nowThanks. Mean people get what they deserve.

I take this back...seems I opened my big mouth and didn't know HER situation. Ouch.

Dharma, thank you for your timely, polite but firm response. I'm glad you said something. I tried writing several replies to her email....and had a hard time not being mean, so I gave up. You do have tact....more than me
on Dec 14, 2004
>> I take this back...seems I opened my big mouth and didn't know HER situation. Ouch.
I suggest you dash out her email.
on Dec 14, 2004

*please* do not post email addresses without consent.  We believe in people's privacy, and nobody deserves to get spammed because of something that they said in private email.

Now, on to the dog issue.  I can see it from both sides.  I had dogs and a colicky baby at the same time.  It was hard to take care of both.  But, the child got older and the dogs adjusted.

However, on the flip side, unless you wanted to run that dog, you shouldn't have gotten a border collie.  Herding dogs *have* to run.  She has to play and run around (which is why she is running around and tearing up the yard).

There is also something that you are not considering about this dog and your future.  This dog with become the #1 protector of your children.  Herding dogs become protective of their "herd" (your family).  They will keep your children out of the street and other people from getting close to your children.   I have a Welsh Corgi (bred for herding sheep).  She rounds up my dachshunds for me in the yard, and if my daughter is outside, she cirlces her and stays right by her until she comes back in and won't even let the neighbor kid get close to her unless I tell her it is OK.

I don't mean to put guilt on you, and I would *much* rather see you find a good home for her than to drop her off at the pound (especially this time of year when everyone only wants puppies and she is likely to be put down even though she sounds like a wonderful dog), but herding dogs get very attached to their owners.  She is sitting out in the elements because she feels guilty for whatever "bad" thing she did that caused you to exile her from the house.  Herding dogs are a very smart class of dogs.  They become very loyal and they show great remorse if they do something "wrong".  She needs to be in a household that understands her breed of dog and has the room to run and play without being punished for just being herself.

It doesn't sound like the dog is bad at all.  She just doesn't fit into your current lifestyle.  You are the only one who can say if what you are doing is "right".  Hopefully you will easily find a good home for her. 

on Dec 14, 2004
LW, just let me know if there is anything I can do to help.  If you have the ability to drive and get the dog, I would be more than happy to "chip in" on the expense of travel.  I have no idea the distance or the circumstances, but if I can help in any way, just let me know.  (I know that you can also transport animals on planes, but I'm not sure how expensive or humane that is).
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