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I'm pissed and it's not even my kids.....
Published on March 10, 2005 By lifehappens In Current Events
My friend's 12 year old daughter was given a reward today in Science class. She is in 8th grade and 12 years old.

What do you think the reward for doing well on the test was? Candy? No. Less homework? Not that either. A movie..."Saw"Link


If you haven't seen this movie, I have heard that you probably don't want to. Disturbing images of gruesome death, dismemberment, violence etc. etc. I rented it for the school board to review during a meeting tomorrow and printed up several reviews off the internet. The information I gleaned from the back of the box and from the reviews was disturbing enough, I don't really think I would be able to watch this. I can't imagine a teacher showing this to TWELVE YEAR OLD KIDS!

Apparently, the teacher told the kids not to tell anyone about this either. I think that proves that she knew it was inappropriate, so for those who did see this movie, what do you think? Am I overreacting? I think any movie that is R rated should not be shown to kids without parental approval. I think viewing Shindler's List in history class would be acceptable, but a horror movie?

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on Mar 12, 2005
Absolutely unacceptable! When I was in school (not that long ago) even as a senior you had to have permission to see a PG movie in school. I agree with many of the posters that the fact that the teacher told the kids to keep it a secret is digusting! Reminds me of the "It'll be our little secret" line. Please don't let this issue die with them.

-Jenn
on Mar 12, 2005
I don't like horror movies myself...the just don't do anything for me so I can't say I've seen this one.
Even so, I can't begin to fathom why the teacher would think it was okay to do so. Obviously she knew she was in the wrong and was treading on a minefield here, or else she wouldn't have told the kids to keep it under their hats.
Would she have wanted a teacher of her kids to do something so reckless and irresponsible? How stupid.
I agree that this should be pursued. After all, it's not like she showed them "Star Wars" or "The Care Bear Movie".
If she wanted to show them something scary, she could have used, maybe, an older movie...the 1968 version of "Night of the Living Dead", maybe. Scary, but not so...perverse and gory, at least not by today's standards.
Or, if she wanted to, she could have made it seem like an educational exercise. How about Universal's 1931 versions of "Dracula" or "Frankenstein"? "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde"? Not only classic horror flicks, but based on classic novels, as well. She's moronic....I hope she gets what's coming to her.
on Mar 12, 2005
If she wanted to show them something scary, she could have used, maybe, an older movie...the 1968 version of "Night of the Living Dead", maybe. Scary, but not so...perverse and gory, at least not by today's standards.


You mean the film that was banned in several countries for goryness?? lol

Nothing like Zomby people gnawing on a human leg while moratl people blow their heads off to complete a child's education!! ;~D
on Mar 12, 2005
I saw the movie, I thought it was an okay movie in entertainment value. Definately a trip into a psychotic world...but I do agree that it shouldn't shown in schools without parental approval especially to 12yr olds....Wow, having seen that movie (and I'm 16) I can definately say that 12yr olds would freak out after watching that. It's very graphic and detailed....I think's it's a pretty good movie if you're of the proper age. It's not scary but very gruesome, anyway.

~Zoo
on Mar 12, 2005
You mean the film that was banned in several countries for goryness?? lol

Nothing like Zomby people gnawing on a human leg while moratl people blow their heads off to complete a child's education!! ;~D


No, Mr. Ebert....that was 1978's "Dawn of the Dead", which was much, much more gory and violent. If you've ever seen the 1968 movie, you'd know what I mean. It wasn't as graphic. And the shoot'em in the head thing wasn't introduced until "Dawn".
on Mar 12, 2005
Of course, once again, by today's standards, "Dawn" was nothing compared to something like what I've heard "Saw" is like.
on Mar 12, 2005
No, Mr. Ebert....that was 1978's "Dawn of the Dead", which was much, much more gory and violent. If you've ever seen the 1968 movie, you'd know what I mean. It wasn't as graphic. And the shoot'em in the head thing wasn't introduced until "Dawn


I stand corrected!! and to think I was even thinking of cracking a joke on you being a decade off on the year of release!! ;~D

Glad I never claimed to be a "know-it-all" ;~D
on Mar 12, 2005
'Saw' is one movie that I can't even begin to fathom how a teacher can justify showing in school.

I too am in 8th grade, and my teacher has shown us an R movie. However, it was related to the curriculum (the movie was "Glory" for the Civil War). Also, the teacher managed to censor the curses by fast forwarding through some scenes and other methods. It was by no means a secret between the teacher and students.

My teacher has shown us a PG-13 movie not related to the curriculum, but he also censored that. His reason for showing it to us was because it was the week of standardized testing, so the teachers were asked to give us a break. As long as the movie isn't grossly inappropriate, I don't think there is much harm to it.

The issue about 'Saw' should be pursued. I really can't imagine why any teacher would show that...
on Mar 12, 2005
Well, i want to thank everyone for their input on this...especially those who saw it. As I said before, the preview was more than enough for my happy-go-lucky mind. I don't think you are a prude Bluedev and Parated2k....I value the opinions of those with morals and standards. Apparently many parents were upset about this movie being shown to thier kids. The school board has absolved themselves of responsibility so far. They point out that in the school guidelines...ALL movies that are more than G rated MUST be approved by all parents. So I don't know what will happen to the teacher yet, but the principal was furious. I will keep you informed...Thank you for your opinions and thoughts on the subject. I'm glad to know that I am not alone in my "prudish" opinions!
on Mar 12, 2005
I remember seeing Excalibur in my freshman year of high school. Sure, that has some naughty bits, but not only did they fast forward past them (to the disappointment of dudes like me), but Excalibur was actually relevant to the curriculum (i.e. King Arthur). I wonder how Saw was relevant to anything. Is there a SERIAL KILLER who drives people to suicide in that school?
on Mar 13, 2005
I stand corrected!! and to think I was even thinking of cracking a joke on you being a decade off on the year of release!! ;~D

Glad I never claimed to be a "know-it-all" ;~D


Neither have I, but I do know my zombie flicks....only horror movies I do like.
on Mar 14, 2005
my kids are still little and i have only just started having to deal with school systems, but if any teacher did anything so inappropriate with any of my kids, i would pull them out of that class so fast!
by the way, the 12 year old girl should be loudly praised for blowing the whistle on this teacher.
on Mar 14, 2005
Ward Churchill sez you can't trample on the rights of that teacher!!!!!

The teacher should be run out on a rail ( bet it don't happen ) ....
on Mar 14, 2005
What in the hell was she thinking? Showing a rated R movie to 12 year olds. Didn't she have to get it approved before showing it to the class? At my daughters school it has to be approved by the principal and if he feels that it might be questionable then they send out notes to the parents asking permission to show it to the child. I think the teacher needs to be severly reprimanded or even suspended for a while. And maybe the school needs to take a closer look at how to keep this from happening again and to make sure it isn't happening in other classes. I guarentee that if that was my child I would be raising hell with that school until something was done with that teacher. I would have the entire county knowing what was going on and have that school board meeting full of parents. Please keep us updated on what is going on with this.
on Mar 14, 2005
Yeah that movie isn't for children. I don't think it's an overreaction to strongly disapprove of this teacher's action.

>> Apparently, the teacher told the kids not to tell anyone about this either.

hmf. I hope the teacher gets what she deserves.
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